Civ 7 & Civ 6 User Review Scores on Steam are NOT the same on Release - Marbozir
I just wanted to make this video to set the record straight about the current Civilization 7 user review score on Steam, and how itpares to Civilization 6 on release.
Komentarze:
@TonyG_Film: This video is a big part of the reason you are my favorite Civ YouTuber. Thanks for the truth, Marbs.
@madmartigan1498: nice idea, thanks
@AyaReikoTripleElite: I rather play Civ 1 than Civ 7.
@Pumba70: I can't believe it... your average Civ players are skewing whatever they can to make it seem like this is the best game ever and the devs can do no wrong? I never seen this before, definitely not on every post the devs make where these players are saying how they're so excited to play the best game ever and that the devs are the best so they'll be pre-ordering the Ultra edition for $500!
@danielcripps3607: My favourite flavour of autism. Excel spreadsheets
@danjal87nl: Not to detract from the points made here - which are all valid and true. But it would be amiss to discount one other variable in the equation which is that there's a shift in attitudes from people slowly taking place. Which informs which people and how they leave review scores.
CIV has always had this trend of being a bit of a letdown compared to the "final product" of the prior release, but paired with the price hikes and growing trend of monetizing game features in the industry as a whole more people are getting vocal in speaking out against these things. All of which further skews review scores and the like. And also tends to paint peoples' perspectives without even giving things a fair shot.
There's a LOT of people who will already be on a bandwagon to burn something down before even having tried it. Meaning it won't take much for them to go "SEE, SEE, THEY WERE RIGHT!"
The irony in this being that when you look back on titles where this happened, a not insignificant number of games that were received poorly on release end up being some of the more liked titles a few years down the line.
To me at least, this trend paints a picture not just with regards to the games themselves (both new and older releases) but also a trend in people's attitudes as they are worn down by the times we're living in -- and with no real way to release that displeasure, quite a few end up just pissing on everything within their reach disproportionately to what is warranted.
Different doesn't have to be bad. But since people notoriously struggle with change different is almost always painted as bad in the initial kneejerk response.
CIV has always had this trend of being a bit of a letdown compared to the "final product" of the prior release, but paired with the price hikes and growing trend of monetizing game features in the industry as a whole more people are getting vocal in speaking out against these things. All of which further skews review scores and the like. And also tends to paint peoples' perspectives without even giving things a fair shot.
There's a LOT of people who will already be on a bandwagon to burn something down before even having tried it. Meaning it won't take much for them to go "SEE, SEE, THEY WERE RIGHT!"
The irony in this being that when you look back on titles where this happened, a not insignificant number of games that were received poorly on release end up being some of the more liked titles a few years down the line.
To me at least, this trend paints a picture not just with regards to the games themselves (both new and older releases) but also a trend in people's attitudes as they are worn down by the times we're living in -- and with no real way to release that displeasure, quite a few end up just pissing on everything within their reach disproportionately to what is warranted.
Different doesn't have to be bad. But since people notoriously struggle with change different is almost always painted as bad in the initial kneejerk response.
@Jack_Jack05: Yet the guy who had early access still decided to promote the game for people to buy, ironic.
@notgonnadoit32: Shouldn't you be streaming civ 5 right about now?
@Cashinn_Outt1754: I enjoyed civilization six at launch, I really didn’t enjoy my time with civilization 7… I actually refunded already.
The UI, the hard reset every era change (not Civ swapping but deleting your units, forcing peace, and demoting cities to settlements) are my two biggest gripes
The UI, the hard reset every era change (not Civ swapping but deleting your units, forcing peace, and demoting cities to settlements) are my two biggest gripes
@OneOnOne1162: Interesting video but wish you'd added a "net reviews" to both rows by subtracting the negative from the positive in cummulative reviews for each day already known for both.
@Tokru86: Can someone explain to me the huge spike in daily reviews for Civ 6 after 1 month? Was there also an early access? But one month seems kinda long for that.
Also the first days of Civ 7 kinda look strange compared to 6. Civ 6 looks like you would expect from a title, where one single playthrough takes some time. Nearly no reviews on day one while everyone is playing and a steep ramp up to day 3 where, I suppose, most people finished their first game. Civ 7 on the other has the peak right on day 1 and then a decline the following days. This looks more like a "review competition" than an honest review process. Only few people would have realistically finished a game on day one prior to reviewing it. And I mean both sides here. Sadly the resolution doesn't go into the hours of the day. I would be curious at how quickly the reviews came in.
In essence to me it looks like one side review bombing and the other immediately contering with their own dishonest positive reviews to "win" the review war.
Also the first days of Civ 7 kinda look strange compared to 6. Civ 6 looks like you would expect from a title, where one single playthrough takes some time. Nearly no reviews on day one while everyone is playing and a steep ramp up to day 3 where, I suppose, most people finished their first game. Civ 7 on the other has the peak right on day 1 and then a decline the following days. This looks more like a "review competition" than an honest review process. Only few people would have realistically finished a game on day one prior to reviewing it. And I mean both sides here. Sadly the resolution doesn't go into the hours of the day. I would be curious at how quickly the reviews came in.
In essence to me it looks like one side review bombing and the other immediately contering with their own dishonest positive reviews to "win" the review war.
@werothegreat: What's standing out to me is that 7 has a lot more reviews. On day 1, 6 had 8 total reviews. 7 had almost five thousand.
@Ericshadowblade: While there was people dissatisfied with civ vi the game wasnt a painful experience to play meanwhile civ vii seems to go out of its way to hate the player with its baffeling ui choices and its horrible ux experience
@dennissvitak5475: 33% on the first day, MUCH higher since. Tells me all I need to know about the review bombers.
@paradoxmo: I like the game and am enjoying it. I believe the core mechanics and gameplay systems are solid. But the code is buggy, UI has many clear oversights, and it’s just not a polished game. The level of testing that’s gone into it feels like the amount you would get in an early access game on Steam.
I do expect a lot of this will get patched, but I would have rather they released actual early access and fixed these before the actual release. I think developers were not given the time needed to finish this game.
I think it has the potential to become a better game than civ6. Civ6 was extremely micromanagey and boring in the late game, and civ7 fixes a lot of those problems. I just wish this had been a more mature release from the software perspective.
I do expect a lot of this will get patched, but I would have rather they released actual early access and fixed these before the actual release. I think developers were not given the time needed to finish this game.
I think it has the potential to become a better game than civ6. Civ6 was extremely micromanagey and boring in the late game, and civ7 fixes a lot of those problems. I just wish this had been a more mature release from the software perspective.
@jackthelad2691: Focus is turning away from the issues now and towards the Civ 7 gameplay experience, which is sadly, unsatisfactory. ?
@ADVBCAT: Fake civ game.. they should have called it something else and launched it as a side game like Beyond Earth or whatever. Call it Civilization: Scrambled Eras or something.
@???-x5j: It's an absolute disgrace that some people are defending slop
@ottawamonsterpocalypse7729: Interesting to see and you taught me something new today. Thanks.
@Marbozir: Bonus screenshot with added cumulative % of positive reviews: /deYSAnj.jpeg
Edit: By the way, I don't have a horse in this, I'm just the guy who really likes stats and data
Edit: By the way, I don't have a horse in this, I'm just the guy who really likes stats and data
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